Scotcoin Partners with Blockraise: A Major Leap in its Web3 Journey
Scottish fintech Scotcoin has taken an important step forward in its journey towards accessibility and impact. The Scottish cryptocurrency has appointed Blockraise, a Zurich-based Web3 venture accelerator, as its strategic partner to guide its expansion and listing in the global cryptocurrency market. This move is set to open up new possibilities for the project and bring ethical cryptocurrency into the mainstream.
The Role of Blockraise
Blockraise will play a pivotal role in making Scotcoin accessible to a global audience. The Zurich-based firm will provide valuable guidance to Scotcoin in several key areas, including liquidity strategy, community expansion, and tokenomics design. This collaboration with Blockraise is a significant step toward the project’s listing of tokens in the coming months.
A Vision for Scotcoin
Scotcoin’s vision extends beyond just being another cryptocurrency. The project seeks to create a vast ecosystem by forging partnerships with third sector organisations and private sector businesses willing to accept Scotcoin in exchange for a wide range of goods and services. Initially focusing on essentials like food, clothing, and shelter, this approach could have a profound impact on communities and individuals alike.
For instance, consider a clothing shop with unsold garments that would typically go to waste. With Scotcoin, a charity can purchase these items, providing a sustainable solution for both the business and the charitable organisation. This innovative approach could revolutionise how we think about currency and its impact on our society.
Opening Doors to More Participants
By listing Scotcoin on cryptocurrency exchanges, the project aims to increase its accessibility to a broader audience. The Scotcoin Project’s marketing and treasury division will provide financial support and regulate the distribution of tokens to ensure responsible and controlled growth.
Accessibility Through Scotscan.io App
Scotcoin offers a user-friendly solution for its community. Holders can easily exchange Scotcoin using the Scotscan.io app, available for download on Google Play and Apple’s App Store. This feature simplifies the process of transacting with the cryptocurrency and furthers the project’s goal of inclusivity.
A Promising Future for Scotcoin
The appointment of Blockraise as a Web3 partner marks an exciting and promising chapter in Scotcoin’s journey. Temple Melville, CEO of The Scotcoin Project CIC, is optimistic about the future. He stated,
“Appointing Blockraise is the next major step in our strategy to expand the Scotcoin community. The firm is well respected in the global cryptocurrency space, and we look forward to working with the team on this next phase of Scotcoin’s development, bringing the token to a much wider audience and helping to provide food, clothing, and shelter to those who need it.”
Alba Bank Partners with Mambu to Revolutionise SME Banking
Alba Bank just announced its strategic partnership with Mambu, a leading cloud banking platform. This collaboration is set to redefine how SMEs access lending services and manage their retail and business deposits.
Supporting UK SMEs
Founded by Scottish entrepreneur Jim McColl in 2018, Alba Bank was born out of a vision to bridge the growing gap in financial services for small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) in the UK. Based in Glasgow, the Scottish fintech has been developing new solutions to provide commercial finance to UK SMEs that have long felt underserved by traditional banking institutions.
Embracing the Future with Mambu’s Cloud Banking Platform
Alba Bank’s partnership with Mambu represents a significant move towards achieving its mission. By harnessing the power of Mambu’s cloud banking platform, Alba Bank will adopt a “composable approach” that promises to revolutionise the way it serves SMEs. This approach empowers the bank with greater agility and speed to market, a much-needed change for SMEs striving for financial support in an ever-evolving business landscape.
Addressing the Funding Gap
A report from Mambo shows that over the past five years, a staggering 58% of UK SMEs have faced have been unable to secure adequate funding to meet their business needs. Many SMEs are struggling to stay afloat or seize growth opportunities.
The report highlights the critical importance of impeccable service in the eyes of SMEs. 93% of them would contemplate switching lenders if a competitor offered a superior service. This is why financial institutions like Alba Bank need to deliver not just funding but also a customer-centric experience that SMEs truly deserve.
Nick Lawler, Market Director, Northern Europe at Mambu, says:
“Now more than ever, the availability of finance is key to the success of all SMEs. SME pain points need to be properly acknowledged by banks, as success rates for loan applications are 20% lower than for large enterprises. By pivoting to Mambu, along with a growing number of neobanks in the UK, Alba is in good stead as it continues to transform this sector of banking, supporting small and medium-sized businesses to reach their potential. We look forward to working with Alba as it supports direct lending to SMEs and fuels economic growth in Scotland and the wider UK region.”
Sandeep Kadam, Chief Technology Officer at Alba Bank adds:
“We’re excited to work with Mambu and fully embrace a cloud-first approach. Our partnership will enable us to build our products quickly and adapt to ever-changing market demands. At a time when SMEs are being underserved by traditional lenders, speed to market and agility are both crucial. Mambu’s ability to offer both will enable Alba to build a great banking experience for our customers.”
Navigating the Future: The UK’s Competitive Edge in Fintech Regulation and Innovation
“The UK has a strong competitive advantage in areas like cybersecurity, privacy and, increasingly, artificial intelligence. A lot of work, however, remains to be done. This is not an automatic process by any means,” outlines Dr Devraj Basu, Senior Lecturer in Finance in the Accounting and Finance department at the Strathclyde Business School. Basu helped set up the RegTech Forum which brings together industry, academia and government to help understand the fast moving RegTech landscape and how Scotland and the UK can position themselves to become leading global players.
“While the UK has well established strengths, it needs to pull together all these very different areas by creating an ecosystem solution,” he continues. Basu feels that if the UK provides a proper regulatory framework in the context of technology it will provide a greater impetus in unlocking innovation. A stable regulatory framework is also needed to adapt to technological change to ensure it’s fit for consumers – AI being a prime example. But the UK needs to simultaneously join up with international best practice as well. “These elements require a deep understanding of all the issues, as well as an aspect of agility to bring together all the different stakeholders,” he says.
Regarding the appetite of UK regulators towards the development of overarching digital public infrastructures (such as the so-called India Stack’ built on Aadhaar, India’s digital ID system), Basu believes that the UK can learn from establishing digital identities, preferably through the creation of an overarching framework for privacy regulations. However, the parallels stop there. This is because the UK would, unlike India, have to tackle its legacy technology issues. Further, the UK’s Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) can only play a limited role in transforming legacy infrastructure because rather than dishing out prescriptive directions to industry, the FCA is a principles-based regulator which can only outline overarching maxims.
In terms of innovating financial regulation itself, Basu feels that the UK has done the right thing by introducing regulatory sandboxes. Moreover, he feels strongly that the FCA should start looking at the costs that regulations impose on businesses and how they can be minimised. This could be achieved by implementing a by design’ philosophy by providing either high-level roadmaps that minimise cost or interactive processes that lead to better regulation. “One way of being innovative is if the regulator could convince organisations that the adoption of new regulations would actually improve products or sales. One thing that’s come out of our RegTech Forum is this notion of the by design’ philosophy, which takes a proactive view on regulation, which in turn encourages innovation,” Basu explains. “Ideally a regulator should be a body that guides businesses through a process and helps them get better.”
Amiqus Wins Legal Technology Award at Scottish Legal Awards 2023 and Gives Back to Community
Scottish fintech Amiqus just won the 20th annual Scottish Legal Awards. The company was awarded the Legal Technology Award for 2023, marking a significant milestone in its journey of innovation and growth.
Amiqus, known for its commitment to innovation and purposeful growth, has not only achieved recognition for its technological developments but also demonstrated its dedication to giving back to the community. To celebrate this remarkable achievement, Amiqus has pledged to donate £1,000 for every new account opened throughout the month of October. These funds will be directed towards supporting the Scottish Refugee Council, a charity devoted to aiding asylum seekers and refugees and helping them integrate into Scottish society.
Scaling Success and Impact
Amiqus has experienced a massive growth in recent years, solidifying its position as a leading player in the legal technology landscape. The company has forged partnerships with nine out of the top ten biggest Scottish law firms, as well as over 500 firms across various sectors throughout the UK. This expansive reach highlights Amiqus’s ability to provide valuable solutions to a diverse range of clients.
This growth story received national recognition in 2022 when Deloitte acknowledged Amiqus as the fastest-growing tech company in Scotland. Amiqus achieved this status by delivering nearly 2 million checks to facilitate compliance processes, enabling individuals to move homes, secure new jobs, and access regulated products and services online seamlessly.
A Testament to Excellence
Gregor Angus, Senior Business Development Manager at Amiqus, expressed his delight at winning the prestigious award, saying,
“The Scottish Legal Awards recognise and celebrate the achievements of those working in and supporting the legal sector. We’re delighted to have won this award, particularly considering the scale of and the respect we have for the other finalists. This recognition from a panel of independent judges is fantastic and is a testament to the hard work and effort of everyone across our teams at Amiqus.”
A Commitment to the Legal Profession
As Amiqus continues to expand its influence across various sectors and countries, the company remains deeply committed to investing in and supporting the legal profession. This commitment is rooted in Amiqus’s early adopting client base, many of whom are legal professionals. The company has a longstanding partnership with the Law Society of Scotland, reinforcing its dedication to helping firms of all sizes meet their regulatory obligations efficiently.
Amiqus’s win at the Scottish Legal Awards 2023 not only recognises its exceptional achievements in the legal technology sector but also underscores its commitment to making a positive impact on the community. By donating to the Scottish Refugee Council, Amiqus is not only celebrating its success but also contributing to the well-being of those in need. As the company continues to grow, it remains focused on supporting the legal profession and driving innovation in the field of legal technology.
Boosting Scottish Small Businesses: The Launch of the £150 Million Investment Fund
The British Business Bank is launching a brand-new £150 million Investment Fund for Scotland today, October 5th. This initiative will provide a significant financial boost, unlocking opportunities for smaller enterprises to prosper and thrive.
Unlocking New Avenues for Small Businesses:
The Investment Fund for Scotland is designed to foster sustainable economic growth by offering crucial support to both new and expanding businesses throughout the entire country. It aims to accomplish this by tailoring investment strategies to meet the unique needs of these enterprises. The fund offers a diverse array of financial options, including loans ranging from £25,000 to £2 million and equity investments up to £5 million. This wide spectrum of financial support is intended to help small and medium-sized businesses initiate operations, scale up their activities, or maintain a competitive edge in their respective industries.
A UK Government-Backed Initiative:
One of the most notable aspects of the Bank’s Investment Fund for Scotland is that it marks the first-ever UK government-backed investment fund dedicated solely to supporting smaller businesses in Scotland. This landmark move is set to significantly enhance the availability and variety of early-stage finance options, extending a lifeline to firms that might otherwise struggle to secure investment.
Supporting Diverse Business Endeavors:
The fund’s primary goal is to support businesses in a multitude of ways, including expansion, innovation in products or services, the development of new processes, skill enhancement, and the acquisition of essential capital equipment. This comprehensive approach shows the fund’s commitment to fostering holistic growth and development within Scotland’s small business ecosystem.
Expert Fund Management:
To ensure the efficient allocation of funds and expert guidance, the British Business Bank has appointed three trusted fund managers:
- DSL Business Finance: Responsible for managing smaller loans ranging from £25,000 to £100,000.
- The FSE Group: Tasked with overseeing larger loans in the range of £100,000 to £2 million.
- Maven Capital Partners: Managing equity investments of up to £5 million.
These experienced fund managers bring a wealth of knowledge and expertise to the table, further strengthening the fund’s potential to drive positive outcomes for small businesses in Scotland.
Louis Taylor, Chief Executive of the British Business Bank, said: “
With this fund for Scottish businesses, we hope to open the doors to new opportunities for a range of smaller firms looking to get started, grow, and develop across different sectors. We know that access to finance is a key concern for small businesses and are committed to ensuring that founders from all over the country have the same prospects in terms of finance, no matter where they are based.
“Scotland is a nation of entrepreneurs and innovators and recent success stories from spin-outs and early-stage businesses show that there is huge economic potential. We want to create local opportunities and generate an impact that spans beyond the fund, helping to boost productivity, innovation and employment.”
Scottish Secretary Alister Jack said:
“It’s great news that the British Business Bank is launching its new £150 million Investment Fund for Scotland. This funding boost will be hugely important in giving smaller Scottish businesses the investment they need to grow. Scotland has some fantastic business success stories, and this new, additional fund will help create even more of them.”
Following today’s launch, the British Business Bank will be holding a series of information roadshows aimed at people working in the small business finance ecosystem including enterprise agencies, advisers, accountants and more. The first of these will be held in Inverness on 31 October with the second in Edinburgh on 1 November. More towns and cities will be covered in the new year and an online version of the session will also take place on 7 November.
To find out more and apply for funding, visit: www.investmentfundscotland.co.uk
Hays and fintech scotland launch ”˜talent platform’ to enable professionals to showcase skills
A joint initiative from workforce solutions and recruitment specialist Hays and FinTech Scotland, the fintech cluster management organisation, aims to highlight candidate skills and experience directly to Scotland’s many emerging fintech companies.
Traditionally, employers will advertise job vacancies and candidates will submit their credentials to apply. The new Fintech Talent’ platform will enable professionals to showcase their skills to over 220 fintechs in Scotland and be matched with suitable job vacancies.
The initiative is being launched as part of the Scotland Fintech Festival (21 September ”“ 12 October 2023) when a programme of events, workshops, networking and conferences are being held across Scotland.
“The Scottish fintech community is thriving and has seen the number of fintech companies grow from 26 in 2018 to more than 220 today” said Justin Black, business director of Hays Technology Scotland.
“The sector is expected to create over 15,000 new jobs by 2025. As a strategic partner with FinTech Scotland, we’ve created this talent community to position potential candidates in front of fintech employers to fill this need in as efficient a way as possible.”
Potential candidates can register through the FinTech Scotland website, where they will be invited to upload their CV. An AI process then searches and matches CVs to specific vacancies, recommending candidates to employers which they can then review.
“The system means that fintech employers will only receive recommendations that are curated and relevant to them, whether it’s in artificial intelligence, blockchain, cloud computing, cyber security or biometrics. We will assess the candidates before adding them to the database. But if candidates apply that we feel are not quite ready for the fintech route, we will have meaningful conversations and provide guidance and advice to help them achieve their career goals.”
FinTech Scotland supports a cluster of over 220 fintechs of all sizes, as well as large established financial institutions, regulators, universities, citizen groups technology and professional services firms and government bodies. In 2022, Scottish fintechs received over £305m in funding, an increase of over 200% on the previous year.
Nicola Anderson, CEO at FinTech Scotland said:
“We are really excited about the launch of the new ‘FinTech Talent’ platform. In collaboration with Hays, this initiative will seek to support Scotland’s dynamic fintech community at a time when the global skills gap continues to grow. As we unveil this innovative solution during Scotland Fintech Festival, we’re thrilled to empower professionals on their career journeys and help them find their perfect fintech match. It’s an important development for both candidates and the fintech industry.”
A £250 Billion Opportunity: How fintechs can lead the charge in greening UK homes for Net Zero
One of the newer startups of the Scottish fintech ecosystem, Snugg, is dedicated to making energy efficient homes simple and affordable for everyone. Co-founder Robin Peters spoke to us about his concept of climate finance and challenges, as well as his recommendations for fintech companies entering the space.
In the UK, homes make up a fifth of total carbon emissions, and it is estimated £250 billion pounds of investment is needed to make homes energy efficient if we’re to hit our net zero objective by 2045. To get there, the private sector will have to play a significant role in support of that. While investment in large infrastructure projects, such as wind farms, are supported by quite mature financial vehicles, there has been very little progress in innovative finance solutions for homeowners.
“One of the key challenges is that investment related to decarbonising homes is generally quite expensive and intrusive. And frankly, the investment case often isn’t very attractive to people,” points out Peters. “So it’s quite a difficult nut to crack, but also extremely important.”
Climate finance plays an important role in tackling this challenge because it brings together different elements of the private sector to underpin finance initiatives to help the world achieve its net zero ambition. The goal is to not only direct investment into getting projects off the ground, but it’s also about helping financial services customers to invest in climate-positive activities.
Yet there are a number of barriers that need to be overcome, including the need for more consistent government policy around green incentives, and the fact that general consumers have got to want this more. Further, there needs to be more integration across the supply chain. “People need things to be made simple for better take-up of the pro-climate incentives that are on offer,” explained Peters. “There should be a deeper alignment amongst the different providers across the supply chain, for example, between a trusted installer, the financial provider, manufacturers and the government.”
The financial sector now also has an opportunity to pave the way more seamlessly. Firstly, they can put all their data to more intelligent use by targeting personalised initiatives and engaging with customers in a more meaningful way. Secondly, there is scope for innovation in green financial products, such as pay-as-you-go (where people can repay loans based on savings they have achieved from making their homes more energy efficient) or property-linked finance (where a loan is linked to a house rather than a person). Peters notes a slight degree of reluctance in the financial sector at present, yet he is optimistic that in the future there will be better auditing of banks to assess whether financial products are truly delivering.
His top three recommendations to Scotland’s fintechs wanting to incorporate climate concerns into offering?:
- Focus on the data: There’s a lot of data out there that can be improved and interrogated for better insights
- See the opportunity: A perception shift is needed to see that this is an opportunity for real innovation. There’s a huge investment opportunity for financial services, yet patience is needed as banks can be particularly slow in adopting truly new innovations
- Collaborate: It’s an incredibly dynamic market which literally needs to grow by a factor of ten in the next 4-5 years. There’s also an enormous amount of innovation, and sharing different ideas with emerging players and other participants will help come up with the best solutions for the market.
Defining Climate Finance
Kirsteen Harrison, the Environment & Sustainability Advisor at the digital-assets platform, Zumo, is a stubborn optimist with a fierce conviction that businesses should be a force for good. As such, she works with leaders to facilitate the mindset shift required for businesses to thrive in a net zero future.
She notes that the term climate finance’ is a multifaceted concept, which in her view, may be used as an all-encompassing term and often gets confused with green or sustainable finance. “Climate finance has been specifically defined by the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) as finance for climate mitigation, adaptation or resilience,” Harrison explains. “To me it also includes generally enabling and delivering flows of climate finance to the parts of the world where it’s needed most.”
To support the flow of climate finance, financial institutions are having to establish transition plans that show not only how they will meet their own net zero targets, but to ensure financial flows actually shift towards supporting decarbonisation. This requirement has not quite yet filtered down to most fintechs. Harrison cautions that the requirement for fintechs to consider the financed emissions they are facilitating will arrive sooner than they think, and that the pace towards transition will move extremely quickly and not in a linear fashion. “I think as businesses, we tend to look at past events and timelines as a way to predict what might happen in the future. And with climate change we cannot do that, that is actually quite a dangerous thing to do,” cautions Harrison. “In terms of evolution, I think it is going to be much faster than we are used to seeing. Not only is that needed, it’s to be encouraged.”
Harrison also believes that improvements to ESG investing need to be made. She acknowledges that while this is a fast-evolving landscape and there is rightly a fear of greenwashing, there is nevertheless a much higher burden put on ESG investing. “ESG investments rightly need to prove that they meet certain criteria through data, whereas non-ESG investment does not.”
She has confidence, however, that blockchain technology will be a true enabler for delivering climate finance. Because blockchain provides an immutable ledger, it can ensure that finance is delivered to the points it actually needs to be delivered to, which is especially important for jurisdictions lacking in good governance structures. Blockchain can also play an important role in supporting the role of quality carbon credits and renewable energy certificates (RECs) by avoiding legacy issues such as double counting.
Harrison has three main pieces of advice for fintechs wanting to incorporate climate finance into their offerings:
- Do it authentically: Rather than simply launching a green product, sustainability principles need to be embedded in your business alongside credible net zero commitments.
- Stay two steps ahead: Because we’re working within such a rapidly changing landscape, planning needs to determine what might be needed in three, five or seven years’ time, or risk quickly becoming out of date.
- Be mindful of financed emissions: A big part of the carbon footprint of the financial industry is financed emissions’, which are the greenhouse gas emissions linked to investment and lending activities. Fintechs need to very carefully consider how their work might be impacting financed emissions, and, if necessary, pivot and support climate-friendly choices and investments instead.
Awareness is key. Ultimately, fintechs need to take responsibility for the impact that investment decisions can have on harming the environment, as well as the impact that they as technology providers might have on affecting the system as a whole for the greater good. In doing so, they will attract and retain new talent, increase trust in their brand and prepare themselves for the fast-evolving sustainability disclosures landscape.
New partnership to tackle financial fraud using synthetic data
In the ever-evolving landscape of financial fraud, Authorised Push Payment (APP) Fraud has become a prominent concern for both regulators and financial institutions. In 2022 alone, a staggering £485.2 million was lost to APP Fraud scams, accounting for a significant 40% of all financial fraud losses during that period. To combat this growing problem, the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) and the City of London Corporation have teamed up with Smart Data Foundry to provide innovative solutions and support their mission to eradicate APP Fraud.
Smart Data Foundry’s aizle Synthetic Data Engine
At the heart of this collaboration lies Smart Data Foundry’s cutting-edge aizle® synthetic data engine. This powerful tool is being harnessed to create a synthetic dataset tailored specifically for APP Fraud. This dataset will be accessible through the FCA’s Permanent Digital Sandbox, providing a resource for innovators and stakeholders in the fight against APP Fraud.
Understanding APP Fraud
APP Fraud occurs when individuals are deceived into transferring money to fraudsters posing as legitimate entities or individuals. The consequences of falling victim to these scams are devastating, particularly for those who are financially vulnerable. It is a pervasive issue that requires comprehensive and innovative solutions to address effectively.
TechSprint Initiative and Continued Development
Recognising the urgency of the problem, the FCA and the Payment Systems Regulator (PSR) organised a TechSprint event in September 2022, focusing on combating APP Fraud. Smart Data Foundry played a pivotal role during this event by providing their APP Fraud synthetic dataset. Building on this momentum, Smart Data Foundry has continued to refine and expand their dataset to meet the evolving needs of the industry.
The Importance of Quality Data
Access to high-quality data is essential in the fight against financial fraud. It enables innovators to test ideas, develop proofs of concept, and refine models effectively. The APP Fraud synthetic dataset, provided by Smart Data Foundry, covers the entire lifecycle of APP Fraud, offering a representative and relevant resource for researchers and organisations striving to combat this growing threat.
Bryn Coulthard, Chief Product and Technology Officer at Smart Data Foundry, stated,
“We focus on creating high-utility synthetic data to enable innovation within the financial services industry. We are delighted to continue partnering with the FCA with our APP Fraud datasets to help play a part in tackling this growing problem and to help ignite and accelerate innovation in this space.”
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Unlocking Financial Innovation with Digital identities and Open Finance
Open banking data is hugely valuable as it allows us to address the lack of trust that innately exists in a digital-first financial services engagement. In actuality, it is our bank accounts that best reflect us as physical people, spending money every day and creating a footprint of data. By using open banking data we can leverage the identity and data we already have with our banks, so that third parties (like lenders) can understand us just as well as our bank understands us.
James Varga, Founder of DirectID, is passionate about Open Banking and the opportunities it provides to redefine the credit and risk industry. In 2011 he founded DirectID with a mission to leverage the identity and data that users have with their bank accounts, helping them prove their identity, financial health, and credit risk in seconds.
“One of my core fundamental beliefs is this idea that we should be able to manage our own individual data,” says Varga. “In the very near future, I think we’re going to start to hit that challenge around the sharing of identities and related standards, which will push us towards a consumer-centric data sharing model, where consumers are empowered to manage their varying sources of data and share them with third parties. But we’re not quite ready for it yet.“
Over the past few years, he notes that the industry has started to view digital identities as an enabler and opportunity, largely because we need to rely on a trusted exchange of information to make decisions. In a centralised view of the consumer-centric data sharing model, identities are treated as a utility with control over identifiers as a result. However, it is extremely difficult to maintain control within this centralised system due to the sheer scale of data relationships that exist. The decentralised model, meanwhile, places the consumer at the middle. This model recognises that value is found, not from controlling the identifiers, but from within the data and services related to that data. There are examples of decentralised models that we can draw on, for example, the domain name network and mobile phone numbers. Such a decentralised model won’t come without challenges: a framework and methodology still need to be ironed out, but prior to this Varga believes that the first big industry challenge is to realise that we shouldn’t own people’s identity and give up ownership over that.
As we move into a world where consumers have an increasing amount of access and control in managing their data, we move from open banking to open finance, which can incorporate all sorts of data occurring over a person’s lifespan. Once the decentralised framework of identity sharing is agreed on, issues around security, compliance and tech standards can then also be agreed upon. “This isn’t a technical problem,” says Varga. “What we want is for people to use multiple identities, and give that control back to the individual to help them to understand who sees your data, who is accessing it, and who is sharing it. And even, ideally, here is the money that you can make from enabling or the benefit that you can get from enabling.”